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The Unreasonable Solution – Full conversation

Guha: What happened to us humans? Why do we understand things? We do understand a lot. But then we create a lot of hazardous things. The latest one is AI, by the way. It will come back to us with great vengeance. We have no idea but we are already using it. There is a fundamental difference between AI and other discoveries. For example, nuclear energy by itself cannot create other newer kind of explosives. But, AI may find out the ways and means to harness nature through experimental iterations by processing massive amounts of data. You know, according to some historians, World War II started the day Germany decided to attack Poland. What is going on currently in the Middle East and Europe is like World War III has started. Nowadays, the countries are marginally restrained because everybody has nukes. You think hard before you hit your opponent.

Anyway, no matter what you do, personal problems will remain. You as you know yourself are a complicated mess in the system. There is a constant demand in the system to overcome that complication to maintain the rhythm of life, which isn’t happening. So the problem continues to exist. Someone doesn’t have money to travel, someone’s junior got a higher raise at work, someone is lonely because the husband is away. Because the problem is in here (points to the head), the solution also has to be perceived in here. You understand? The problem is created by the reasons that are there in your head. Isn’t it? Say if you get Alzheimer’s, what problem will you have? There will be no god, no ghost. You will listen, eat, drink, walk. There will be no problem. There will be nothing. If there is a nuclear explosion we all die, you don’t have to think about it. By worrying you are not going to stop doing your day-to-day work. So wherever the problem is, the solution has to appear there. A resolution has to happen in the world of thinking.

I should tell you this – reason is not going to bring about a solution because it is an unreasonable solution. But you are trying to understand, which is only going to give you more reasons, thereby perpetuating the problem. Yesterday, I saw 3 copies of Larry Morris’ book “Dangerous Friend” in Julie’s library. There are some lines in it that are funny because it is a familiar feeling, you know. Larry Morris was absolutely sure that the effect of UG’s presence was going to change the world. But actually, it does not work like that because it is “unreasonable”. That is why it does not have a general appeal to the social value system. Ideas are very powerful. If you have an idea and you build a story around it which is easy to understand, and offer some kind of simplistic solution no matter how wrong or fictitious, it can have a powerful appeal to many. It is the apparent agreement and matching of ideas that generate power in the world of thinking. All the freaking religions were created that way! Since it is a generalized fictitious solution, there is no way to test it. It does not require a big mental exercise like it does to understand physics, chemistry or biology. Nothing like that. It is simply about using the words, applying the meanings and sticking to them. Something that is unreasonable and acausal is not going to be popular. You can’t even convince yourself, other than the fact that you can’t deny its effect. But if you can reason and understand how it sustains, then it becomes a belief structure, a personal belief structure.

You think you are going to learn something. You are wasting your time. This is not sellable. I cannot sell it, seriously. It is not like some Yoga Rahasya (Mystery of Yoga). The moment I say “rahasya”, it implies there is a mystery and a way to solve it. Yoga has been around for centuries but just look around you – all the gurus are selling hope. Don’t think about what you can do. What you can do is something that will give you a certain result. For the modern human being stupidity and wisdom are like alcohol and water. They are so intermingled, there is no separation. One makes you blind, the other gives you life. Yet they are so mixed up!

Q: How can we discriminate between the two? 

G: Do you think anyone can teach you that? If somebody thinks they can teach, that person has no idea about the complexity of life. They can at best tell this is how it is. How can you teach the unreasonable solution to a reasonable mind? I don’t know. For example, when I was very high about UG, I used to feel like, “This is it!” If you read the book 14 Days In Palm Springs with UG, you will sense my excitement. It was as if I had discovered something that was going to solve the problem of humanity by giving a helping hand to people. But I realised it is unlike the understanding of science since it cannot be explained in reasonable terms. But a subject like the evolution of human beings has possible explanations which appear reasonable to our minds. Around 70,000 years ago humans started using symbols. The symbols and the brain together have become so powerful. 26 alphabet letters and 9 numbers. The entire human history, all the civilizations and their understanding are being expressed just through these. Imagine the power of the brain that is capable of such permutations and combinations! It is truly “countable infinite”, meaning you can count as it is being formed. So that has happened to our brains. I am just trying to point out how complex the problem is. And you think you can solve them reasonably, all your heartaches. Heartache implies some dissatisfaction deep down, because the society gave you a dope and now you desperately want that dope. You still have hope that you will be enlightened someday. It is all fake! Nothing exists. Every single guy in the market is fake. The moment they say they know, they found it, they have an idea, don’t even go there. The past you don’t need to worry about, it is gone. The future that is yet to come – if anybody says they know about it, avoid them like plague. Ultimately, in the name of giving you freedom they will make you the worst slave ever. If it were possible to know, we would know, like we know physics. So don’t even reflect on it. It is a waste of time. Do whatever you can do best and make sure you get your proper share in return. Well, if you have the means to survive and the wisdom, you should not have any problem. It is the lack of wisdom that creates hope. See, we live in our heads and there is this movement of thinking. I am not asking you to stop it. It is going on. Use this momentum to solve the problem that you can. If I have good health, if I have no problem of food, clothing and shelter, then I don’t need anybody to tell me what is right or wrong. Do you? Who doesn’t know this? But those people in the market assume you don’t have the brains to understand even this simple thing. Basically, you are an idiot according to them. So, they will teach you the purpose of life. They will tell you, “You westerners only think about money. You should learn spirituality. Look at Ramana Maharishi. He was so happy just wearing a loin cloth.” Why do they bother to tell you that Ramana was happy? Obviously, they themselves are not happy! No human being wants to listen to anybody. It is our nature. If you solve a problem, would you ask others about the solution? That would be fake. You know that.

This is my Diwali message – you are basically free. Do not listen to anybody because there is no bondage. The bondage has been created by some people for the sake of exploiting you. The ones who want you to give up your attachment to money are the biggest hoarders of money. Look at all the gurus, man! They sit there like kings and you give 20% of your monthly earnings to them. Can you imagine the economics? We are so stupid to believe all this. 

Q: You dropped bombs and lit firecrackers!

G: Let the cracker crack your mind!

Q: You once saw in your vision that you lit one lamp and it became thousands of lamps …

G: Yes, I did a long time ago. That was probably my deep religious desire to show humanity a way. It was the leftover from beliefs. But it doesn’t work that way. In another vision I saw a sage telling me, that the boy (UG) was going to change the human world. All I know is, it changed my world. “Me” is the universe, isn’t it? Aren’t you? If you are not there, what is the universe for you? It doesn’t have any meaning. It is you. If anything changes you, you are a changed person, that’s all you have. Do I frustrate you? Anyway, I don’t want to keep you guys any longer and not allow you to see the fireworks outside! Do you have any question? 

Q: A few months back I had asked you about how to meditate. Then the lines from the Yoga Sutra vitaraga vishayam va chittam …

G: They tried everything. Nothing worked. No one got whatever they got, by doing anything, none. The very few people you want to pay any attention to, like Ramana or Sri Ramakrishna, did not know what they had. There was some resolution of problem, and they gave it different names. What could they do? That’s why I say phenomenology does not know the scientific reason behind it. Like the village kid, who has no idea about angular momentum and its direction, plays masterfully with the spinning top. I had to go through all that for the sake of my own understanding, and I know none of these things can produce what I am talking about. I only started sensing it when UG appeared in my life. Period. Full period. One day, UG asked J Krishnamurti, “You are asking us to be choicelessly aware, but do you think what happened to you happened by practising choiceless awareness? Did you do any those things to achieve this confidence?” JK said, “No.” What yoga did Ramana or Ramakrishna do? None. Why are you interested in all this? You can achieve efficiency through practice but what has that got to do with this? Somebody can run 100 meter in 9.9 seconds. You can sing a raga very well by practicing but will that solve your problem? I don’t want you guys to waste your energy by thinking that I’m asking you to do something or function in a particular way. No, I’m not. I can’t bring UG to you. I wish I could, but it’s not happening. This is life. So, what do I do? That’s the way I think and I have no other clue. But I know, these questions that arise in your mind do not arise in me. Whoever has spent time with me knows it never arises in me, not even in my dream. The questioner is totally hopeless.

The photo book is coming out soon but I am not selling it! You will get nothing by reading it! All you will sense is a series of negations, or a particular glimpse into the way things are. A perspective is like seeing through a window. If you have a big cube, and the cube is way bigger than each viewing window through which the cube can be seen, each window will see something different. That’s perspective. Life and its happenings are huge and each one of us has a unique perspective window, but we don’t understand that. Let’s say, through my perspective window I see the society and its functioning and what we are. Then I use the English language to express what I see. Some people will find it interesting, others will not agree with my perspective at all. I am seeing “6” but you are seeing “1” because you believe in Advaita. I don’t. You believe in eternity, I believe in constant change.

October 31, 2024
Princeton, NJ

Excerpts from my diary

7-Dec-19
Oakhill, Princeton

He had swellings at the base of his neck again yesterday evening. He was saying that the night before around 9 PM, he was very restless and felt strange. He didn’t know what to do. Then the mind stopped totally with no movement in any direction. It was a strange feeling. We looked up the calendar and found that it was the night of solar eclipse and it had begun around 8 PM. He said, now I know what the matter was! He said many years back, on the night of shivratri, his neck swelled and turned blue on the sides. His chest was red and it seemed as if he was wearing a thick red garland. 

***

He wants nothing from me. Never demands anything ever. The only thing he asks is for me to sing and write. He allows me to stay close to him. He made it possible for me to stay in America for 5 months. Who would do  such a thing? Such a man is rare on this planet. 

I gave him a haircut today morning. He looks ethereal! His face is shining! 

7-Jan-19:

While driving to Oatmeal with me, he asked me to write about the difference in attraction – what I had for my parents and what I feel for him. With my parents, the basis of the relationship was what we got out of each other. It was driven by a strong conditioning. We had to match up to the images we had of one another, otherwise discord ensued. It was a struggle. With him, I feel uplifted. The basis of this ‘relationship’ is freedom! There is no push and pull from him, he doesn’t need me, yet he allows me to hang around! He demands nothing, absolutely nothing! I don’t have to please him. Hence I feel no inhibition. 

***

He was listening to my songs in the car and said, “This thing can’t be stolen from you or be spent, it increases as days pass!” 

14-Jan-19:

He said while we were driving to Philadelphia, “You have to know the nuances of bondage.”

17-Jan-19:

Yesterday an 18 year old boy came to see him at Ansonia. He is a second year student of business administration at Minnesota. He had read JK & UG and came to know about Guha. He was in touch with Louis for sometime. He showed tremendous maturity for an 18 year old. I was an absolute dumbass at his age. G spoke for about 2 hours, words tumbling of out of his mouth, never pausing to think. His energy has access to the deepest recesses in us, which are like festering wounds, that nothing else can heal.

17-Jan-19:

What a beautiful thing his body is! The movement of his hands, his feet resting on the table, his slender frame so graceful, fluid – Mother Nature’s piece of art. 

It must have been rare people like him in the past that inspired artists to make graceful idols and label them as “God”. The nature and qualities of such an individual were called “Godly” as they appeared to be strikingly different from most people. 

21-Jan-19:

What is happening in his presence is too powerful, too sweeping for me to grasp. It is as if I am sleep-walking through it. I don’t know. 

There was a lunar eclipse yesterday night. He spoke for about 1.5 hours at Oatmeal. Louis asked him questions about the ancient Hindu philosophy and its foundation. He spoke fluently without ever pausing to think. I sat close to him with my body paralysed. My hands, neck, feet and eyes got locked. I listened with utmost attention but couldn’t process what he said. Tremendous bursts of energy were emanating from him and electrifying me. My head was tight. I felt drunk. 

When I woke up today morning at Radhika’s house, my body was charged up. Then, surprisingly, I couldn’t speak, my mouth wouldn’t move, no words were forming inside. I felt anxious. It reminded me of a similar happening in Kodaikanal earlier this year when I went completely dumb for sometime. A bit later we went walking in the Bridgewater mall. I told G, “Your eclipse-energy burst has made me dumb.” I started talking again when we went for lunch at the Thai Basil.

22-Jan-19:

I feel electrified. The head is tight, thoughts are bubbling up as if getting released by heat. The body is constantly hot and cold – G said it is like tempering steel. 

I was shaking all day as I sat next to him. He knew everything. He casually asked in the evening, “What is happening to you?” He had the most beatific yet mischievous smile on his face!

I can’t write anything, I am drowning in his immensity. What can I write about something so immense and beyond my grasp? He asked me what I was feeling. I said, “I feel as if the air from my lungs will be sucked out if I don’t see you for a second”. He smiled and showed me a thumbs up!

He told me today, “You can say to people that you are preoccupied, so you have no occupation!” 

23-Jan-19:

Woke up around 3 or 3:30 today morning. Tears welled up and won’t stop flowing. 

Till I have an image of myself I will have images of others. But what is ‘me’ and what is the ‘other’? Both are identical – an idea, a bunch of images. That is all there is. That is the show that is running in the head- image after image, reels of passing thought – fearful, hopeful, happy, anxious – draining the vital energy, punching giant holes in the awareness. 

Radhika came very early today. I was up long before and was waiting for him to come down. I was like an object stung by his tremendously high voltage energy. My body has become something else. The eyes are swollen- I didn’t know until I saw a picture that Radhika took of me staring at G in her house. After he came down and sat next to us, I was totally paralyzed. He said something and the crown of my head started paining heavily. I felt my head would burst from the top and my eyes will pop out because of the tremendous pressure. He is nature’s pure energy!

He spoke to a friend for about 30 mins on the phone around 7:35 am. He started with “The name of the game is confusion …” and uttered 3 sentences with such power that it seemed to me they were far more potent than all the uttering of the Vedas and Upanishads of a thousand years put together! When he finished, I almost screamed out, “You are like the purest of the pure, neat alcohol, the tiniest drop of which will make one crazily high. All else is like huge pegs of diluted stuff which cannot produce anything, forget being high! He said, “OMG what are you saying! Are you sure? You have no doubts at all?!” I couldn’t speak any more. 

His essence, his quality is denser and purer than the knowledge of all the scriptures. One can write a thousand books by merely being in his proximity. 

Night:

I am so overwhelmed I can’t recall what day or date or time it is. 

He is asking me everyday to write but I am drowning in this immensity and finding words inadequate. This night, he again said, “You should write down what you are seeing and feeling otherwise you will forget it all.” I said how difficult I was finding it to express anything and I was drowning in him. He said, “Then write just that.” Then he switched on the tv and started watching a show. And I started to write immediately. He sat close to me keeping an eye. Magic! This is real, in action!

The glow in his face is making me blind! I am so hot, I am clueless yet so crazily high! No drug can ever do such a thing! My spine is doing a number – weird sensations as if ants are crawling, and burn and pain. I also felt as if ants are crawling inside the head and there is a tremendous pressure. Today, from morning till late afternoon my eyes were very sticky and painful, there was great pressure in the eyes. I told him in the morning when I was walking with him in the mall and he just nodded. He is keeping an eye on me. I am shivering, sweating and cooling with so much energy all day! Again, I can’t eat. I don’t remember if I’ve eaten. The sight of food gave me a panic attack during lunch. The veggie soup that I drank so many times before, seemed like fire to me today. I think my throat is swollen from the inside. My mouth is highly sensitive to taste now and I can only eat very bland stuff. This is a familiar happening now – hypersensitivity to everything. Like he says, it is the body’s design, by design the body is highly sensitive for its own survival and protection and thoughts and ideas have numbed it. He told a friend earlier, “You are confused but your body is not.” 

After lunch the 3 of us Julie, him and me drove to Ikea. On the way he said to me in Bengali, “Tomar aar kono shongshoy nei? Konorakom sandeho nei?” (do you have any more doubts about me?) I said “No!” Then he startled me and uttered twice that famous sloka from Bhagavatam, “bhidyate hṛdaya-granthi, chidyante sarva-saṁśayāḥ” He said, “If the doubts are dissolved, then its over!” Then he laughed with great joy. I sat speechless as if hit by a lightening. 

After Ikea we went to pickup a friend from Newark airport and then went to Radhika’s. While returning home we were talking. G said, “I know the male psyche, how difficult it is to surrender. UG used to say it is easier for women to love him. I know because I was also a man! I was like them.” I took 2 seconds to digest what he had said and then screamed, “Julie did you hear what he just said? He said he “was” a man OMG! Now he doesn’t know what he is!” G started laughing coyly! My oh my!


Excerpts from my diary

16th July, 2018
Kolkata

Sometimes I can’t help wondering what is all this? What am I seeing in front of my eyes? What is this thing that we call Guha? His movements are like the flash of lightning – unpredictable, unbounded, charged and precise. I told him this and he smiled shyly like a guileless child! All his actions and words seem to be borne out of a pure response to the dynamics around him. His behavior with an individual depends solely on the individual’s disposition and state of mind at that moment. Nothing is carried over to the next moment and there is no mental residue. He says this is how a vital, living system wants to function given a chance. He says he has no such feeling as boredom or frustration, since he has no image of himself and of what he should do. To anyone who does not know him intimately, he will appear to be a just a normal, energetic person with a great sense of humour. He would engage in casual chit chat for hours and never utter a word about spirituality to anyone who was not serious. He has no agenda whatsoever with anybody in the world. Even when it comes to his closest friends, he never imposes anything on them. But if anybody asks sincerely for his help, he gives the most practical advice.  

He does not shy away from taking the help of an influential friend to solve the problem of another friend. “This is the only way to navigate through the challenges of social dynamics”, he would say. But he never uses anything or anybody for himself. What is his life like? I remember him saying, “My friends are all I have. This is my life, I have nothing else.” I could have never imagined that one could live like this until I met him. I had imagined certain things when I read about the lives of Sri Ramakrishna and Ramana. But to witness a live-wire, a pure fire raging in front of you is a different ball game altogether. What is it that emanates from him that captivates me and many more? I cannot take my eyes off him even for a second! What is this attraction? Often I feel I’ll be blinded by the light of his presence and close my eyes. I remember a friend had taken some photos of him in Kodai and was showing them around. She showed them to G and he tried to show them to me. I don’t know what was there is those photos but my eyes just couldn’t bear to look at them! I felt blinded by their power and intensity! I turned away as if in pain saying, “I don’t want to look at your photos, I can’t!” He just said to the friends “ok let her be.”

What an intense attention develops in me in his presence! I feel a tremendous power in my body as if each and every cell is bursting with energy! It defies all descriptions and ideas! These are not my imaginings. It is not possible to imagine such things. If it is real, you feel it in your bones and see it as clear as daylight. And you will never seek anybody’s approval or attention; you will have no interest in discussing with anybody whatsoever!

If one is brave enough to expose oneself to such a phenomenon, the fire will burn down the formidable castle of ideas and images and perhaps bring about an irreversible change that is life-abiding. This has got nothing to do with what the holy texts and scriptures call enlightenment or brahma jnana or a state of eternal bliss which can be achieved through intense practice and renunciation. 

If there is anything called peace or happiness, it is the destruction of all inner conflicts, created by images and ideas, that drain the body’s vital energy, and establishment of harmony and balance with life around us. This is nature’s dynamic equilibrium that is maintaining the continuity of life since time immemorial. This supremely intelligent and complex process that has evolved over millions of years can never be known in its totality. It has its own mysterious origin and expression which will possibly remain forever unknown to the human brain, because whatever we can know is limited. Whatever we imagine about its scale, extension and effect are just models and assumptions created by churning what we already know so far as a civilization. In fact all models are created by observing and trying to understand the way nature operates. Knowledge is an after-effect of the living process. It is a memory, and memory is a fragmented, static imprint left behind by life’s interaction with our brain. Like a tiger leaves behind its paw marks in soft mud. But the footprints are not the tiger, not the real thing! How can such knowledge (any knowledge) ever discover the origin  and operating mechanism of life’s energy?! 

Closer home, how will this knowledge solve my conflicts, frustrations and boredom of living? Knowing whether life can exist in Mars or not will not resolve any of my problems at home or my fear of disease and death, while living in an oppressive society. Anything I do for begetting happiness or health leaves a bad after-effect, a fear and there’s no respite. Honestly, I don’t know what is good for me!

Thousands of years of knowledge-gathering has built up a tremendous momentum in our minds and is being passed on from generation to generation, taking on an ominous form. It is a formidable force, a self-destructive movement. On the other hand knowledge has produced tremendous results using science and technology. But overall, as a race, we remain confused, depressed, sick, fighting wars and looking ever more for entertainment to escape the difficulties of living which are our own creation. 


New chapter in Corona Diaries

9-Mar-21
8:46 pm
Prosperity Apartment
Pondy

Rahul, Revathi and I have been sticking to G like bees to a pot of honey. We sit cozily around him all day glued to his magnificent presence. Our trips to shops, the beach and every other place have reduced drastically. We hardly go out, cook just one dish once a day and stay close to him. He has been talking to us all day, saying things that are immensely significant to me and my life. Explaining what is real yoga, attraction, meditation, equilibrium and much more.

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At what point does the social structure loose ground in an individual?

Guha: It’s an arduous process, almost like a constant introspection, to see ourselves responding to the social demand and dynamics, and gradually enriching ourselves with an awareness that understands the subtle difference between our needs and wants, and our vulnerability and strength towards achieving an equilibrium. This awareness creates a new process whose aim is to achieve freedom from the social slavery.

Excerpts from my diary

9-Mar-2019
Kolkata, India

This man lives without any burden of the past. His living is full of energy and punch. He says to me, “So many people have come to see me. Most feel nothing and go away. And here you are saying so many things about me and my effect on you. How is that?” His effect is not universal. It is subject specific he says. It depends on the person interacting with him. What will come out of him largely depends on me in my case. So it is with the others. Hence, it cannot be applied universally, unlike the laws of science. I used to feel his presence is bound to have some effect whether or not one is aware of it, but then I found it somehow largely depends on how the individual translates the effect into his or her understanding. The right kind of alignment in terms of information can perhaps lead to resonance. Without that, either the interest in him will snap quickly, or it will be one long struggle if one is somehow still able to hold some interest.

His presence cannot be used for social improvement or mass reform. On the contrary, it has no social value and one does not get any reward out of it. We cannot put Guha up on a pedestal and ask people to worship him, like the way Vivekananda did in his missionary zeal through the establishment of the Ramakrishna Mission. Life doesn’t function that way, Guha says. This shakes to the core our moral values and scriptural ideals of general good, peace and well-being springing out of spiritual pursuits. These are distractions. Practice makes us cunning and manipulative individuals.

The only way to get a glimpse of his living energy is to interact with him. His effect cannot be measured. All measurements require a reference but here there is none. No knowledge, no understanding can teach us how to deal with him. It has to be a personal discovery.


Excerpts from my diary

4-Nov-19
Handmade Home, Kolkata
5:32 pm

I am high like crazy. It is difficult to contain such infectious energy. 

Since we came to Kolkata, G has burst open like a massive ripe, sweet, succulent fruit. People are buzzing like bees around him. The laughter, the craziness and the joy his presence is generating is like unlike anything one can ever imagine. He is also dead serious at times. His body language, the movement of his hands, his whole body is indescribably beautiful, oozing his scorching, healing energy. I feel electrocuted by him. There’s no sleep, no tiredness, I am running around, cooking huge meals, coordinating with people for cleaning, making travel plans, booking tickets, buying stuff – endless chain of activities just flowing one after the other under the shade of his gracious gaze.


On Tendency and Conditioning

“Your tendency creates more conditioning by using the pre-existing impressions. That is how the layers get added. Old conditioning cannot be wiped out, but if the innate tendency to create new conditioning is somehow shaken, then it will stop creating more mess. I attack the tendency not the accumulated conditioning. This changing of the core tendency is the radical transformation, and not the wiping out of past conditioning.

As your discrimination becomes powerful, the old conditioning will wither away and be rendered useless. After this, whatever new impressions are formed will not be harmful and will be used by your system for functioning efficiently. It is impossible not to be affected by the environment you live in, so you will take in only that information which is necessary and discard the rest. This will address the well being of the individual as well as life around him or her. This is how life functions.” 

Guha

On Power

“I have no miraculous powers. If I had any, the world would be at my feet, which is not the case! Some people say I have a funny effect on them and they feel something in my presence. That is what they say, but even they don’t know what it is. And I don’t know anything either, I don’t see anything in me. So, both are unknown.

Power means you should be able to use it to get what you want. But if it is unknown, what can you do with it?”

Guha